{"id":4608,"date":"2021-06-25T14:19:54","date_gmt":"2021-06-25T18:19:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/?p=4608"},"modified":"2021-06-25T21:22:10","modified_gmt":"2021-06-26T01:22:10","slug":"hear-me-out-start-a-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/2021\/06\/25\/hear-me-out-start-a-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Hear me out, start a podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Podcast enthusiasts were brewing with excitement in the chat room before the best practices session &#8220;So, You want to Start a Short-Form podcast?&#8221; even began during the ONA21 conference. As the clock counted down to the start of the session, an attendee asked who else was excited to hear these hosts speak.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This session felt and sounded like a podcast episode, but the speakers just have that voice. They sounded calm, modulated and were booming with excitement to share their passion for short-form podcasting.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Caitlin Thompson, reporter &amp; audience lead at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.codastory.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Coda Story<\/a>; Niala Boodhoo, host of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.axios.com\/podcasts\/today\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Axios Today<\/a>; and Devin Katayama, host of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kqed.org\/podcasts\/thebay\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.kqed.org\/podcasts\/thebay\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Bay<\/a>, led this conversation about making a successful switch to audio in the newsroom.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thompson, Boodhoo and Katayama introduced themselves and their shows. Each show has a unique objective, reporting style, publishing frequency and team structure.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"4611\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/2021\/06\/25\/hear-me-out-start-a-podcast\/screen-shot-2021-06-25-at-11-27-08-am\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png\" data-orig-size=\"1502,850\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?w=800\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?w=1160\" height=\"656\" width=\"1160\" src=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?w=1160\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4611\" srcset=\"https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png 1502w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=800,453 800w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=1160,656 1160w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=1400,792 1400w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=120,68 120w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=90,51 90w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=320,181 320w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=560,317 560w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=240,136 240w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=180,102 180w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=640,362 640w, https:\/\/journalists-org-develop.go-vip.co\/newsroom\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/Screen-Shot-2021-06-25-at-11.27.08-AM.png?resize=1120,634 1120w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1160px) 100vw, 1160px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Having a clear objective and voice was their first tip for attendees. They all agreed that this was the first step in developing a short-form podcast.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the beginning of the session, they shared a rundown of what they would discuss and encouraged those who want to start a podcast to do the same to stay organized.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Short-form podcasts are hard. &#8220;In the public radio world 15 minutes, which is roughly what our podcast is, is actually a lot of space. But we&#8217;re doing it so quickly, and we&#8217;re putting a lot of creativity into it,&#8221; said Katayama, host of The Bay. His podcast recently celebrated its third anniversary and 500th episode.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Bay is aired three days a week through KQED, a public radio station in San Francisco. Their stories are &#8220;second day&#8221; or &#8220;of the week&#8221; headlines that the community wants to know more about.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although short is hard, being very intentional about your purpose and having a mission is essential. When recording, Boodhoo, of Axios Today, acts as if it is a live recording.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;We found [that] preserves the narrative of it sounding like a really tight, live conversation,&#8221; said Boodhoo, who later added how this helps her producers.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She said that 90% of the work happens before you&#8217;re at the mic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I think doing all that work on the front end actually makes things a lot smoother afterwards for the kind of work that we&#8217;re doing because we&#8217;re mostly doing two-way conversations,\u201d she said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I think the biggest thing is to know before you launch, roughly, where you need to go and then be perfectly OK with having to shift,&#8221; said Thompson of Coda Story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thompson and her small team at Coda launched its podcast at the beginning of 2021. 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